Logic, Logic Everywhere and Not a Drop to Drink
Both of these men make good points--great points, actually! However, these two brilliant men keep getting caught up on semantics. They go back and forth making analogies and stating claims only to have the other turn around and tear apart the statement all on an unclear word choice. Then, the argument goes off on a rabbit trail on what that word means.
They are clearly well-versed and well-educated. They know what they're talking about, and when it comes to philosophy--much like mathematics--the truths lie in axioms. Although at first to me it seemed like they were arguing semantics, but it's in these semantics that the base of the argument is set. I feel like I'm going in circles, but I promise I'm not. The point about T.S. Eliot though made me laugh since Bertrand Russell knew T.S. Eliot...a little too well. Bertrand Russell stole Eliot's wife.
PS I commented on Ty and Olivia's posts.
They are clearly well-versed and well-educated. They know what they're talking about, and when it comes to philosophy--much like mathematics--the truths lie in axioms. Although at first to me it seemed like they were arguing semantics, but it's in these semantics that the base of the argument is set. I feel like I'm going in circles, but I promise I'm not. The point about T.S. Eliot though made me laugh since Bertrand Russell knew T.S. Eliot...a little too well. Bertrand Russell stole Eliot's wife.
PS I commented on Ty and Olivia's posts.
Every debater must make sure the definitions are clear and something the opponent can agree with, especially in philosophical debates. Books have been written on the meaning of just one word (Plato's Republic, for example). While extremely tedious, definitions are the rock on which the debate must rest, which is why they had to move on to a different subject when they couldn't rest on a definition.
ReplyDeleteI just felt as if they went to far with how much they were discussing semantics. Literally they spent more time discussing the meaning of individual words as opposed to the meaning of their ideas, but I guess it is key to being able to not misunderstand anything.
ReplyDeleteI went ahead and took a look at other sections of their debate later. This trend we see in the video continues. The art of debating is actually pretty hard to follow, especially when both sides are dead set on a view. This is the primary problem that is inherent in debates. Presuppositions cause a lack of open-minded discussion.
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